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  1. Yesterday
  2. Update on this. I met with the legal firm (https://www.gluckstein.com/class-actions/Ford-Fusion-PHEV-2019-2020-Recall-Class-Action/learn-more) and they have confirmed that they are going ahead with a Class Action against Ford in Canada. If you are affected, suggest you contact them via that form. Note that in Canada, all impacted owners are automatically opted-in for the class action, but wouldn't hurt to get your contact info on their list. Good to know that someone will be fighting Ford on this. Lawyer said there are approximately 4000 Canadian vehicles impacted by the recall. He said he will be meeting with Ford lawyers in late April to discuss. He indicated that this meeting would be very informative regarding Ford's approach to resolving this. If they have a fix coming, the settlement would be for additional gas charges. If Ford decides to scrap the fix, the settlement scope gets much larger. Either way it may take up to a year before it hits the courts. Lawyer suggested I contact him in May for updates. Will report back.
  3. Last week
  4. Agreed. Ford's rationale for the 20 miles was flawed. Obviously they wanted to use the lowest possible cost battery to keep the price down, so they used the "average" commute, but assumed you could charge at work too. That gave them a battery that was too small to push a car that large/heavy. Thus the battery degradation issues especially with freeway driving. It really was a no-win situation for Ford, but they could have made better choices.
  5. I wish the battery was about twice as big. My son drives about 20 miles to work in the 2019 Energi, he could, before recall, get there or just about. Would have been nice to be able to drive there and back on one charge. But, I can only dream.
  6. Tossing this out there: Looks like we have official confirmation of the latest calibration available from Ford on these TCU's. Had a user post a screenshot from FJDS over on the CyanLabs' forum and looks like UP is the latest calibration level. Although now with a lot of EV functions being removed for us, it's not as big of a deal as it once was. https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/tcu-waiting-for-home-url/13279/16
  7. Having similar issue caused by water in the trunk. Can't find leak anywhere. If I fix the fan, just going to happen again. Anyone find this leak?
  8. I'd say that isn't quite accurate. The 2013-2018's are not part of this recall, because they have a different (older) battery. When Ford updated the battery in 2019 adding 20% more capacity (9.0 kWh total), something went haywire. The older 7.6kWh batteries (like my 2015 with 114k miles on it) are doing just fine and do not have this issue. It was the battery cell designer/manufacturer who pushed this "new" battery out that was probably the premature move.
  9. I think my Fusion Energi buy-back was made possible by California's Lemon Law. It was noted more than once somewhere in all the paperwork this involved.......getting a Honda Accord Hybrid as replacement. I've had a bunch of Hondas in my auto-history all without issue: 2 Civics 2 Preludes 1 Accord 3 CR-Vs I guess it could just be that Ford's foray into the plug-in technology was a bit premature.
  10. Thats not too bad because I only paid $21K in Jan 21 for my 2019 Fusion Energi Titanium. It only had 4K miles and has less then 30K now. How many miles and is it a Titanium like mine? I may consider it if they offered that for mine. BTW I drank the Tesla juice...lol
  11. Hello, @jsamp! Thank you for your reply, and I hope you DO get the ‘69 Cougar to 1,000,000! I’ve seen your posts and comments over the years when I’d just view the website, so it’s a bit of a trip to see your reply in the best way possible, haha. I don’t think it will make it to 1,000,000 miles either, at least on the stock parts. I do anticipate having to either have the EV or hybrid motor repaired or replaced, but I’m hoping it happens after 500,000 miles, haha! My mentality is to hopefully grow with the car to the point where I know what to expect in the sense of failures ahead of time. If it does make it to 500,000 miles on stock motors and the stock transmission, my modest math would be to assume I’ll have to replace them at least once every X miles. The “X” is 300,000 miles and counting, for now. I think weather, preventive measures(like never going below a 20% charge which I don’t), maintenance, and so on will lead to the concluding result, but time will tell most. I will run that test and get back to you here. Overall, I just hope it keeps chugging along. [url=https://ibb.co/z4ywsD7][img]https://i.ibb.co/kSRFKv9/F97-F36-FD-B98-B-4-C88-90-C1-37244-C242-BFE.jpg[/img][/url] Are photos not allowed anymore?
  12. Welcome Pheonix. That makes 2 recently (you and user @REM) who have 300k miles on an energi. Way more than my 114k. I have a '69 Cougar that I thought I would do the same (drive it forever then give to a Ford museum). But after ~330k miles and some mechanical issues I didn't have time to address, I stopped driving it. That, and the fact that EVs were coming out and I didn't really enjoy driving an 18MPG vehicle spewing out all that pollution. So it sits in my driveway as a retirement restoration project. I would seriously doubt the energi could make 1,000,000 miles without needing several battery replacements, and replacements are going to be VERY hard to get soon. Yes, you might be able to rebuild one yourself if you are an extreme tinkerer (with good elec skills). But I fear keeping the battery working for that long will be the Achille's heel of the project. Don't mean to be a downer on your idea, just looking at it semi-realistically. What I'd really like to know is what kind of condition your battery is in at 300k miles? Can you run the "battery test" mentioned in a bunch of threads on here and report back? I'd love to hear how many kWh you can pull. I've recently dipped below 5.0kWh on that test. Cheers.
  13. Earlier
  14. Hello, Anybody out there? My name is Pheonix, and I own a 2014 Ford Fusion Energi Titanium with approximately 300,000 miles. The car is currently on its stock motors, transmission, spark plugs(12/2023, oops, but thanks, EV mode), and so on. I primarily requested to join this group as I I’ve always been a lurker of older posts and users through out the years, but I’ve noticed the ownership rating(in the sense or how many people still use them) of these cars has plummeted the last few years. It is evident I missed out on the prime eras for the vehicle. I have a dream and an ambition to get this car to 1,000,000 miles, and to give it to Ford or a Ford Museum or somewhere where it can sit as a positive reflection of Ford and the Ford Fusion Energi. They’re also incredibly cheap in California, and I have had thoughts about starting a fleet rental company with Energi or hybrid models. I am rebuilding the suspension with KONI STR. T shocks and struts, Steeda 7/8” lowering springs, and a few other suspension upgrades mostly provided by MOOG Suspension. I aspire to document everything as best as I can, and hopefully inspire some other people around this series from the Ford Fusion lineup. I have a representative from Steeda that is going to help find other applicable parts as well. I live in a hilly area in Southern California, so my EV range for the life of the car has said 41 miles. I’ve changed the 02 sensors, spark plugs, motor mounts, and a few other things within the last couple of months and I will post the upgrades accordingly on the website/thread categories. Best wishes to you all! 🙂
  15. A little more description would be helpful. Typically when you plug in it does a 'demo mode' display where each segment of the light ring illuminates in sequence until each light has lit and gone out twice. After this, it then lights up whatever quadrant is charging and 'pulses' on and off on that quadrant until it is full, then it stays lit and moves on to the next quadrant, which flashes until it is full. When you plug in, what happens? Does the ring do the 2x around the ring light sequence? Once that is done, does the first quadrant light up and start the slow pulsing? Does it ever move on to the other quadrants? Sometimes quadrants burn out and stop working, but if you are getting no charge, that is not likely the case. This may require a trip to your dealer for diagnosis. Edit: did you have the service done relative to the HV battery recall on 2019 and 2020 energi's? If so, your battery has been disabled by Ford and won't accept a charge.
  16. My 2020, Fusion Energi is not charging. The blue light comes on when I plug it in but when I enter the car the next day there are no EV miles. Any help is appreciated. As a side note, I also have a 2013 and that one still chrages like new every day with almost 300,000 miles.
  17. I also have another issue. When I start the car, it says that it’s 85% charged. Sometimes it’s on EV mode, sometimes not. If it’s on EV mode, the car will run exclusively on battery and after some kilometres, the orange wrench will show up and the ICE will start and will run almost exclusively on it. I don’t see the blue bar on the screen that shows the KW of the electric motor. The battery is depleting even if the electric motor is not running much. When I arrived at my destination, the battery is almost depleted or depleted completely. I then turn the ignition off and turn it on again and now the battery can show sometimes 40%. What could be the problem ? I have an appointment at the dealer Monday. We’ll see.
  18. Update: So far it seems to be the foam trunk lid seal. The water runs from the channel down the sides, and as it does it brushes against the side of the foam trunk seal. At that point it transitions to the edge of the seal and continues down around the corner until it found a gap to leak in at the bottom. I pulled the seal up on the metal lip that it clips to hoping to get better contact between the seal and the trunk lid. So far it worked, but it has only rained once since doing this. Now that we are near the end of our rainy season, I may have to do more testing with a garden hose sprayer.
  19. There's a Canadian law firm named Gluckstein Lawyers who appears to be doing a class action law suit against Ford. I pasted a link below that takes you to a form where you can express interest in participating in their class action lawsuit. https://www.gluckstein.com/class-actions/Ford-Fusion-PHEV-2019-2020-Recall-Class-Action/learn-more
  20. Not sure what your dead battery issue is, but there are some possibilities. 1) DC charging circuit is fried - this would be fed by the DC-DC converter. 2) Old weak battery (has it been replaced? it's 3-4 years old now). You could use a trickle charger at night instead of plugging in the HVB. Rig up a quick-disconnect plug to either the battery in the trunk or the posts under the hood and you could quickly plug in a trickle charger.
  21. Hi. I have a FFE 2019 and the charge level on the Sync screen says the battery is full but on the left dashboard screen it says otherwise like 85-90%. What could be the problem ?
  22. I'm having issues with my 12v battery ever since I stopped charging my 2020 FFE back in October, 2023 after Ford put out the BECM recall. I have a short 3.8 mile commute and over the past few months the passenger side touch to unlock would stop working and I would get the message low battery shutting down warning.... a couple of items that warn the 12v battery is low. So I have put the battery on a battery charger and the issues went away for a while with the 12v having a full charge. However after a few weeks my 12v is acting up again... passenger side door will not unlock by touch... the low battery warning. Is my short commute killing the 12v battery? I just pulled fuse #10 to disable the 3G modem and I have been charging the car nightly for the past week and by doing so everything is back to normal. I know Ford says do not charge the battery but what else can I do to keep the 12v in good condition?
  23. You can really run the mi/charge number up if you just sit with the power on. I have seen 42 mi/charge on my 2020 FFE even though I don't get anything close to that in actual mileage.
  24. I removed fuse #10 to disable the 3G modem. I believe it may have been causing some issues with the 12v battery. Pulling the fuse also disabled the keypad to unlock the door and for me, I can't say that's a real issue because in 4 years I used the keypad maybe 6 times... mostly because I was too lazy to go in to the house and get the keys. So even though I don't use the keypad all that much I don't like the idea of not having it as a backup. Right now I have no plans to upgrade to 4G so if I disable the 3G modem by pulling the connected wires/plugs would that be the same as pulling the #10 fuse?
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