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#1 OFFLINE   paraven

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 07:47 AM

Hello everyone, new member here.  my local ford dealer has a used 2016 ford energi SE for sale for 18K with 17,000 miles on it. I was looking to get just a regular fusion, but this one caught my eye. my daily commute is approx. 25 miles round trip (12.5 miles each way) and I wont be able to plug into work. The drive is half stop and go traffic lights, and then half on I-95 doing about 70 mpg. My current daily driver is an 03 ford diesel (yes I know going totally opposite direction) but I plan on keeping it as a work truck. Given my details on my commute, is  the energi worth spending the extra 3K then getting the fusion with the 2.5l. Thanks again! Also any input on the plus's and minuses of the car would be great. Iv been reading around the forum a bit too. Thanks again!










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#2 OFFLINE   AlexC

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 10:51 AM

I think you have 2 choices to make:

1. Energi vs regular Fusion

 - Electricity is not free, so the 25 miles commute will not be completely free. Overall you will get about 55-60mpg combined, compared to ~30mpg out of the regular 2.5l.

 - Only you can tell if the $3k is worth the difference.

 - SE trim has different features between gas and Energi Fusion. Make sure you compare them properly.

 

2. Used vs new. I think you can get that price lower, as the difference to a new car is not that high. Take into account few aspects:
- differences between 2017 and 2016 models

- price of a new car. A new 2017 FFE SE has some serious discounts and I'm sure you can get it at around 25k.

- tax credits / deductions for a new car, and when you can get them.

 

I would go for the used one at that price if it were a full options Titanium, not SE.

I would also go for a new 2017 Fusion Energi SE as you get very close to the used price after you factor in the tax credits.



#3 OFFLINE   jsamp

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 11:22 AM

Given my details on my commute, is  the energi worth spending the extra 3K then getting the fusion with the 2.5l. Thanks again! Also any input on the plus's and minuses of the car would be great. Iv been reading around the forum a bit too. Thanks again!

 

"worth it" depends on what you mean.  In purely dollar value, it will take you years to get the payback, if at all. You'd have to calculate your $/mile from your electric rates and compare that to your $/mile for gas in a std Fusion.  My guess is it would be 8+ years for a true payback of the $3K premium.  Note that your commute will likely still use some gas, especially in the winter when the battery doesn't go as far.

 

If "worth it" means the reduced emissions, that depends on what value you put on the emissions, and how clean your electricity is.

 

I assume there is no HOV or Toll benefit to a PHEV?  That is another factor to consider.

 

Your commute is pretty good for an Energi because you can use the electric in the traffic, and the gas on the Interstate.  That is the best way to use a PHEV.



#4 OFFLINE   murphy

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:02 PM

This time of the year you will get about 10 miles of electric driving if you turn the heat on.  In electric only mode the cabin heat comes from a 5 kW resistance heater.  I recommend using a GO time to warm up the cabin while still plugged into your electric supplier.  Note that a 240 volt EVSE is needed for this to work.  The 120 volt EVSE, that comes with the car, has a maximum of 1440 watts.  Battery efficiency drops quickly in cold weather.  I am 35 miles north of Philadelphia. 



#5 OFFLINE   paraven

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 02:01 PM

thanks for the advice, I will look at all my options and go from there! I really like the idea of being able to run strictly on electric for at least half my commute. 



#6 OFFLINE   murphy

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 02:08 PM

thanks for the advice, I will look at all my options and go from there! I really like the idea of being able to run strictly on electric for at least half my commute. 

I'm retired.  I put gas in my Energi once or twice a year.  And spring through fall my electricity comes from PV solar panels on the roof of my house.  Winter is problematic since they don't work when they are covered with snow.



#7 OFFLINE   jsamp

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 09:20 AM

I'm retired.  I put gas in my Energi once or twice a year.  And spring through fall my electricity comes from PV solar panels on the roof of my house.  Winter is problematic since they don't work when they are covered with snow.

 

What?!? You don't climb up there and brush them off after every snow storm? Tsk, tsk, tsk.  ;) 


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