jjr Posted May 20, 2018 at 01:48 PM Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 at 01:48 PM Has anyone tried ordering one of these from Alibaba? The price is good (of course, shipping bumps that up a bit).https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/110V-220V-Duosida-evse-16A-j1772_60663944077.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenPerspective Posted June 14, 2018 at 12:32 PM Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 at 12:32 PM I have ordered a few things from Alibaba, but no electrical equipment. This is solely my opinion, but I don't know if I would trust an item from an unheard of company when it comes to charging a battery that is VERY expensive to replace. Even if under warranty they may ask, or even be able to tell it was charged with a unauthorized cord. Not to mention my paranoia about it possibly causing a fire.Just my thoughts. If you do pick up one please post your thoughts on it. Fezbearer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16vjohn Posted June 28, 2018 at 01:58 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 at 01:58 PM My Fusion came sans Ford EVSE, and I decided to try the Duosida. I'm very pleased. The J1772 plug is as good of quality as any I've used. The cord, box, plugs... all good quality. I'm satisfied. And considering an EVSE is just a cord with a relay, and must comply with SAE J1772 or the vehicle won't even talk to it... I have zero concerns. Half the world's EVs are in China, so naturally the global economy will bleed over into our borders. They're $164 shipped on clearance at Wal-Mart's site. I paid a little more on Amazon, but I'm looking for a second EVSE to keep in the trunk. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Home-Electric-Vehicle-Charger-EV-110-220Volt16A-3X-Faster-EVSEJ1772/650674603 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16vjohn Posted November 9, 2018 at 02:49 AM Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 at 02:49 AM Five month follow-up. The duosida has held up great. I definitely recommend them, excellent value for an L2 at home. jj2me and ramsdaro 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolgy Posted November 30, 2018 at 05:35 PM Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 at 05:35 PM How much amperage does the L2 charger use? I thinking about tapping off my clothes dryer and wondering if both can use the same circuit at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted November 30, 2018 at 06:28 PM Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 at 06:28 PM How much amperage does the L2 charger use? I thinking about tapping off my clothes dryer and wondering if both can use the same circuit at the same timeUnlikely. The car uses 16 amps. A dryer probably has a 6kW heating element which would be 25 amps. 25+16=41 which will instantly trip a 30 amp circuit breaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidoo Posted December 1, 2018 at 01:37 AM Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 at 01:37 AM This is what I did in my house. It is a 30 amp circuit. Just can't run them both at once. I forgot once and started the dryer and it tripped in about 15 seconds. The dryer plug is actually on the same wall as my garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolgy Posted December 3, 2018 at 03:28 PM Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 at 03:28 PM This is what I did in my house. It is a 30 amp circuit. Just can't run them both at once. I forgot once and started the dryer and it tripped in about 15 seconds. The dryer plug is actually on the same wall as my garage. Exactly like my house. I would have to run about 80 ft of dedicated circuit back to my panel. Ugh, that ain't happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16vjohn Posted December 6, 2018 at 07:41 PM Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 at 07:41 PM (edited) Exactly like my house. I would have to run about 80 ft of dedicated circuit back to my panel. Ugh, that ain't happening Set your value charge to begin at 2:00am and they'll never overlap... I guess unless you do laundry at 2:00am.... Edit: You may be able to convert one of the 120v outlets in your garage. If you're running 20a circuits in the garage, the wire will be 12-2. Get a 20a double-pole breaker and convert the circuit to 240v. Just make sure there are no other outlets using that circuit. (DISCLAIMER: CONSULT A QUALIFIED ELECTRICIAN BEFORE MAKING ANY CHANGES) On another note, 6-month follow up. The Duosida cord is starting to show signs of curling, even though I use the proper winding methods. To be fair, it seems to do much better than the Nissan EVSE when it comes to curling. Edited December 6, 2018 at 07:44 PM by 16vjohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrock4 Posted January 16, 2019 at 10:27 AM Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 10:27 AM So something I have been wondering but haven't had luck finding information on. Can the duosida EVSE handle 120V or 240V service? If it can do 120V has anyone tried it? I'm curious if the fusion onboard charger is setup to handle 16A 120V. I read another post saying that the onboard charger is current limited but I'm pretty sure the Nissan Leaf can charge at those specs. Let me know your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted January 16, 2019 at 10:52 AM Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 10:52 AM The maximum current from a 120 volt 15 amp outlet is 15 amps. A continuous load must be derated to 80% which is 12 amps.The maximum current from a 120 volt 20 amp outlet is 20 amps. A continuous load must be derated to 80% which is 16 amps. The plug for a 120 volt 20 amp outlet is different. It has a horizontal neutral and a vertical hot. The Energi charger is limited to 12 amps at 120 volts. It is limited to 16 amps at 240 volts. That was most likely required to get UL approval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted January 16, 2019 at 06:05 PM Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 06:05 PM So something I have been wondering but haven't had luck finding information on. Can the duosida EVSE handle 120V or 240V service? If it can do 120V has anyone tried it? I'm curious if the fusion onboard charger is setup to handle 16A 120V. I read another post saying that the onboard charger is current limited but I'm pretty sure the Nissan Leaf can charge at those specs. Let me know your thoughts. Most 240V EVSE cords will also work at 120V. One guy even inadvertently hooked up the stock Ford 120V EVSE to 240V and it worked just like a 240V unit. NOT recommended, but that's what happened. Since you're looking to run on 120V, I see no harm in trying. The car sets the charging rate, so it will default to 12A on 120V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16vjohn Posted January 22, 2019 at 03:23 AM Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 at 03:23 AM (edited) My experience has been that OEM portable units for cars sold in North America will NOT do 240v. Sounds like the Ford unit is an exception. The $180 duosida will do either. It comes with an adapter. Walmart is out of stock, but Amazon has them too. Mine has been plugged in continuously since June, I've done about 6,000 EV miles and do full charges multiple times daily with the duosida. The J1772 plug is still like new. I'm very happy with it, just take special care to wind the cord properly. You just can't beat the price. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018A6QK7C Edited January 22, 2019 at 03:25 AM by 16vjohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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