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HID 35w vs. 55W install?


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#1 OFFLINE   tsarty17

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Posted 06 February 2015 - 05:35 PM

So, the headlights suck on this car.  I live in the country and drive it on dirt roads (yes probably one of the few).  But the headlights are straight dangerous.  I was wondering what you guys thought on the 55W hide.  Is that going to take much more power from the battery than the 35w?  Id like to get distance but if that amount of power is trivial id probably going with more light.  I don't really care about blinding people as most people around here drive with light bars or baja off road lights.

Also I saw on the other posts everyone had them installed.  Is it difficult on this car?  I have installed them on other vehicles but never had to deal with problem lights or anything.  

 

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#2 OFFLINE   Russael

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Posted 06 February 2015 - 09:35 PM

Go with 35W.  The halogens in the car are actually 55W, but HIDs produce up to 3x the lumen output at 4500k with less energy.  55W HIDs tend to be so bright that it almost appears as high beams even with projector headlamps.  Plus 55W HIDs have reduced bulb life.  The bulbs are the same - the ballasts simply deliver more energy to them, burning them out quicker.

 

I'm trying to hold out for a really good LED headlight.  So far, some are out there, but most of them say they're not intended for headlight use, but are suitable for fog lights.

 

There are some threads on the regular Fusion forum in regards to the installation of HIDs.  It looks rather aggravating.


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Posted 07 February 2015 - 11:28 PM

I saw that.  Seems pretty straight forward.  I'll be ordering 2 35W H11 kits, but I heard that some people needed the error eliminators.  On the ddm site there are a Bow3 listed and a capacitor.  Do we need both?  Just wanted to order everything needed.  



#4 OFFLINE   Russael

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 07:07 AM

I still don't understand this need for a relay harness, or why some of these HID kits refuse to work without a direct connection to the battery.  The headlight switch in the car GOES to a high powered relay to drive the normal headlights, so why does a second relay need to be installed?  That's another big reason I haven't invested in better headlights.

 

I've looked at DDM and Morimoto ones (leaning toward Morimoto if I did get a set).

 

I've read that the second gen fusion will give headlight/bulb out warnings.  Not sure about the 2013.  You could just try unplugging one, turning on your headlights and seeing if the car gives you an error.  I know the turn signals will flash quickly if you replace it with LED without a load resistor... seen that in a few threads.


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Posted 08 February 2015 - 11:17 AM

Ok. Yeah I read the same thing. I'm a 2015. I was just wondering what error thing to order from ddm. They have two. I've installed tons of these on past cars and friends but none we're this new

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 12:16 AM

Got them installed
2 35w 4500k. Perfect color. They look more yellow in the pic but they are white. I wired it like the guide on the hybrid forum and it's great because you can run fogs with the high beams but sucks cause the fogs are always on with the headlights. Wish I replaced the drl with LEDs as they are more yellow than the hids now and stand out. Did you guys convert to led? What ones did you get. I really liked how well the front came off of these cars. Ford did a good job

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 12:20 AM

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#8 OFFLINE   Russael

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 05:04 AM

Have you had a chance to cruise at night with them yet?  How do they compare to the stock halogens?


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 09:52 AM

Yes. I drive a lot at night. I live in the country (drive out where there are no lights on windy roads a lot) and honestly miss the lightbar on my truck. They are brighter than stock for sure. They look a lot better as well. I was gonna check on re aiming hem. They are much brighter but just like the stock light aim at the ground so 30 feet out there is nothing. Great for city driving but not when you in the middle of no where. If you don't have them def do it. Very easy install as well.

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Posted 28 February 2015 - 09:48 PM

You need the relay harness, my understanding is because the bcm is not putting out a clean 12v.

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Posted 09 March 2015 - 12:00 AM

Yes that's correct. Had them in for a bit. It's so much nicer to drive at night. Incredible difference. Especially being able hip run the highs too.

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Posted 08 May 2015 - 08:53 AM

Got them installed
2 35w 4500k. Perfect color. They look more yellow in the pic but they are white. I wired it like the guide on the hybrid forum and it's great because you can run fogs with the high beams but sucks cause the fogs are always on with the headlights. Wish I replaced the drl with LEDs as they are more yellow than the hids now and stand out. Did you guys convert to led? What ones did you get. I really liked how well the front came off of these cars. Ford did a good job

Just wondering where you placed the ballasts and if you get any FM radio interference? I installed a Morimoto kit a couple weeks ago and have radio interference since then. TRS suggested I add RFI cores to get rid of the interference. Tried that and it helped but it's still there. Now they suggest I try relocating the ballasts. The ting is, the engine compartment is so freakin' tight, I don't know where else to put them. If you could post a pic of where your ballasts are, I would greatly appreciate it.

 

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Posted 08 May 2015 - 07:43 PM

Yes from my experience with the FFH you do need a relay harness and for better results a HID capacitor.

Because the DRL's run at reduced voltage and the car turns off the bulb when the turn signls are going, you'll get your HID clicking on and off which isn't good for them.

Driver's side bulb connection -> HID Capacitor -> Relay harnes -> L Ballast -> R Ballast

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 07:42 PM

Your car pic looks great.  Love the HID look.  I am about to do mine too.  Tried the LED and computer will not recognize the 0 voltage and will not turn the LED light on.  So HID here I come!



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 07:15 PM

So, I'm looking at this video which says you have to take off the front bumper??? Please tell me it's not true...

 

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Posted 08 October 2016 - 08:27 AM

It's true, but honestly it's not that hard.  I put down some moving blankets to lay the bumper cover on once I removed it.  


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Posted 08 October 2016 - 09:19 AM

So, I'm looking at this video which says you have to take off the front bumper??? Please tell me it's not true...

 

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It's the bumper cover, not the bumper.



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Posted 04 December 2016 - 11:25 PM

Got them installed
2 35w 4500k. Perfect color. They look more yellow in the pic but they are white. I wired it like the guide on the hybrid forum and it's great because you can run fogs with the high beams but sucks cause the fogs are always on with the headlights. Wish I replaced the drl with LEDs as they are more yellow than the hids now and stand out. Did you guys convert to led? What ones did you get. I really liked how well the front came off of these cars. Ford did a good job


You can turn the fog lights off with a button. Over on the left where the knob, that you turn your lights off with, is.








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