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Blastphemy

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  1. If you want to do the majority of that 56-mile commute on battery power, then get a Chevrolet Volt. You'd be getting gas about four times a year (vs. every 2-3 weeks with the Ford). Also, Ford has made it clear that the Fusion is finished, so you'd be getting a car that Ford will no longer make. Not sure I'd ever reward a company for that.
  2. Ford already thought about all of that. If you had to open the trunk or windows when charging in hot weather, Ford would have told you. I charge in California when it's 110 degrees outside with no problem (and the battery gets much more EV mileage on a full charge in the heat than it does in the cold). So no need to worry, no need to waste time with L1 charging, and no need to play games to (supposedly) protect your battery. That having been said, charging overnight is always the best choice for your car, your wallet, and the power grid. But if you have to charge in the middle of a 100-degree day, don't worry about - do the charge. It's much nicer to drive with the battery than on gas, after all, and if your power comes from renewable sources, then it's more environmentally-friendly too. Some fanatics on this forum do silly things like not charging fully, or setting EV Later mode before the battery is depleted. They're not accomplishing anything (but if it makes them feel good, I'm happy for them - just don't get caught up in this battery hysteria). Your battery may lose a little range over time, or it may not. There are so many factors affecting that eventual outcome that stressing over it and playing battery roulette won't make a difference. Charge the car when you can, drive the car as you like, enjoy the ride, and never think about the battery again. Anyone who stresses out about such a small battery should have bought a BEV (fully electric car), a Chevy Volt, or a Honda Clarity.
  3. http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/25/autos/ford-cars-north-america/index.html Ford dropping all but 2 cars from its North American dealerships Ford said on Wednesday the only passenger car models it plans to keep on the market in North America will be the Mustang and the upcoming Ford Focus Active, a crossover-like hatchback that's slated to debut in 2019. That means the Fiesta, Taurus, Fusion and the regular Focus will disappear in the United States and Canada.
  4. Fusion Energi starts at $31,400 and tops out at around $42,100. So most of the following would fit your criteria for "at the price point" (depending on configuration). As for not looking like a "roller skate," I assume you mean cars like the Chevy Volt, Toyota Prius Prime, Nissan Leaf, Chevy Bolt, and BMW i3, so I won't include those vehicles in the list. Off the top of my head, I can think of the following: Tesla Model 3 (if you can even get one this year)Honda Clarity PHEV or BEVKia Optima PHEVHyundai Sonata PHEVHyundai IONIQ PHEV or EVBMW 330eMitsubishi Outlander PHEVAudi A3 Sportback eTronChrysler Pacifica HybridOf course, if you're like me and only bought the Ford because the Volt was too small and the Tesla Model S was too expensive (meaning I could have afforded more, but couldn't find a plug-in that met my needs for a reasonable price), there are other cars: Cadillac CT6 Plug-in (but note this doesn't qualify for HOV stickers in CA or the state rebate, despite having 31 electric miles)BMW 530eBMW X5 xDrive40eMercedes-Benz C350eJaguar i-PaceVolvo XC60 PHEVVolvo XC90 T8 PHEVVolvo S90 T8 PHEVMercedes-Benz GLE 550ePorsche Cayenne S-E
  5. Whatever I buy, it sure as heck won't be a Ford. Too many problems with my FFE and too little responsiveness from Ford. Not to mention 21 EV-almost miles is barely worth it when there are so many better choices out there. I'm definitely interested in the Jaguar i-Pace coming later this year.
  6. There are so many better cars coming out now and in the next year or two, that I wouldn't waste money on a Ford Fusion Energi of any model year.
  7. I've had this problem for almost the entire time I've had my 2015 Fusion Energi Titanium. Can't reproduce it reliably or figure out what causes it, so the technicians at the dealership have never seen it. Looks like it wouldn't matter since Ford has obviously still not fixed all the bugs in this car even two model years later. My lease is up soon, and it will be a joy to return this car to Ford and never step foot on their lot again.
  8. Not charging fully and not depleting fully, resulting in about perhaps 13-16 EV miles per drive, so that in four years you'll have 16-20 EV miles per drive on a full charge is completely ridiculous. Why would anyone not want to get their full 18-21 miles per charge right from the get-go? That's gotta be the dumbest argument I've ever heard. You're basically advocating that people drive their car like the battery capacity has already diminished so that some day in the future they can drive the car on a full charge and use the full capacity to go even farther? Duh! If the battery is doomed to degrade, then what sane person wouldn't take full advantage of the full range before it does?! If this car's battery is so bad, then how is Ford tricking y'all into buying their Energi cars? lol. Anyone who buys a Ford Fusion Energi only to worry constantly about battery degradation has bought the wrong car.
  9. That was indeed the problem - my 12V battery was nearly dead. Happily, it was still under warranty so the dealership fixed it for free.
  10. I'd believe that was the cause if not for the fact that my car has been doing this for over two years. It's just doing it more, now. But I'll take it in and see if that's the problem.
  11. I also don't seem to have any loss of range when using A/C in my Ford Fusion Energi. In previous cars (Rav4 EV and Volt), using the A/C could drain up to 20% more battery than without.
  12. Since I leased my 2015 Ford Fusion Energi Titanium as new, the sophisticated start-up and collision alert parking sounds occasionally change to what sounds like bad 80s 8-bit videogame-quality sounds that are grating to the ear. This happened infrequently, and usually only if I parked the car in between charging with less than half the battery left. Once I charged the car again, the sounds went back to normal. Recently, though, these are the only sounds the car makes. I can't get the car to sound like it's supposed to! I also get a strange "shutting down the system to save battery" notice on the main screen every once in a while just before I start the car or right after I turn it off. Anyone else having these issues? I should note that I'm not having any range problems with my battery - still the same 17-20 miles per charge I've always gotten.
  13. Mine still doesn't work. Can't wait to give this leased car back to Ford and tell them to bite me when they try to sell me another one of their cars.
  14. The 2015 FFE only gets 18-21 miles per charge. That's the way it's always been, unless you're a hypermiler, in which case you could get more (and waste a lot of time doing it). I drive my FFE like a normal car, not worrying about when the battery has been depleted enough for the gas engine to kick in. I always charge it fully. And the amount of mileage I get with the battery is the same as I got on the first day I owned it. In the winter its a little less, and in the summer its a little more, just like every other electric car. Being so paranoid about a potential minor loss of capacity over many years -- to the point that you charge and discharge the battery in a manner not consistent with how it's designed -- is just plain silly. Why would anyone with these types of hysterical battery concerns buy a Ford Fusion Energi?? You're going to waste sooooo much time trying to prevent something that is never going to happen! lol.
  15. A completely unnecessary concern. This isn't a Tesla, Bolt, or Leaf with a large battery that can lose significant amounts of capacity if fully charged on a daily basis. You have a tiny little afterthought battery that gets barely 20 miles when fully charged. You're not going to see any significant reduction in capacity, even if you keep the car for 10 years. I've had mine for three and the capacity I have today is the same the capacity I had when I bought it. Don't let the paranoia of others cause you to waste time trying to only charge your car to a certain percentage of full - that's not what it's designed for. Just plug it in, let it charge, then drive in Auto - you'll be much happier.
  16. Ford's cooled seats are a joke. My salesperson outright lied to me and said that the 2015 model year seats had both seat and back cooling. That despite the cooled seat icon clearly only showing cooling from the seat (whereas Cadillac shows cooling from both the seat and the seatback). This is one of many reasons I've put Ford on my sh!t list and will never buy one again.
  17. I gave up on Ford being willing or able to fix this months ago. It's not going to happen. Therefore, Ford has lost me as a customer. With so many other superior vehicles on the market now, why would I ever waste my time with Ford again? Next car will either be a Tesla Model 3, Chevrolet Volt, Chevrolet Bolt, Nissan Leaf (next gen), Prius Prime, Cadillac CT6 PHEV, or Tesla Model X.
  18. You are completely wasting your time worrying about this stuff. You won't see any discernible difference whether you go crazy playing all those battery games, or you just drive/charge the car normally like everyone else does. When you get home at the end of the day, plug in your car and let it charge fully overnight, and then forget about it until the next evening. If this was a battery-only electric car, perhaps you'd want to exercise some caution by not charging to 100% on a daily basis. But worrying about this for a gas-electric hybrid is just plain silly. Enjoy your car, and stop worrying about losing 1% of your battery's capacity in three years.
  19. Dude, ignore everything you wrote above. Just enjoy the car and stop worrying about the battery. You're making assumptions about your car based on older models that may have had problems. Generally the only people who post on these boards are reporting problems. The other tens of thousands of people aren't having those problems, for the most part. You need to understand that you're not driving a BEV (battery-electric vehicle with no gas component). You're driving a plug-in hybrid, so all that nonsense about charging only to 80% and not discharging to 0 is not applicable. If you were driving a Tesla, perhaps those would be concerns, but not a Ford Fusion Energi. Unless you're going to keep your car in EV Later mode all the time (which is a complete waste of gas and undermines the purpose of owning such a car), you're going to have to use the battery. And it doesn't matter whether you drive fast or slow, keep the car cool or hot, or play any other such games. You're not going to notice any discernible difference over the long term. Either the car's battery will lose some capacity over time or it won't. As for "avoiding too much regen on downhills," that's impossible. The moment you press the brake you're in regen; you can't avoid it. And that is also another fundamental point to owning this car - getting "free" extra miles by using "L" and gentle braking whenever possible. Again, don't get yourself worked up over a small percentage drop in battery capacity after 30,000 miles (if any). None of the nonsense quoted above will make any difference. Drive as many EV miles as you can, don't get bent out of shape if the gas engine kicks in when you don't want it to, and drive any speed and in any temperature as you want. The Fusion Energi may not be perfect, but the 2017 (2018?) model year is leaps and bounds better than the earlier versions. You may have an odd complaint here and there, but the car's fundamental operation is sound and proven. If nothing else, enjoy the fact that you'll probably only have to fill up your car 1/4 as often as before (unless your round trip commute is less than 18 miles, in which case you may never put gas in the car again).
  20. I write to Ford every month asking if this nonsense has been fixed. Every month I get a reply thanking me for my "patience." Well, because of my "patience," Ford lost a sale today. I was at the dealership for service and saw someone admiring a 2017 FFE Platinum. I told him about the problems I was having with my modem and Value Charging and he decided to go visit a Chevy dealership for a Volt. Actually, Ford lost two sales, because I also was admiring a Burgundy 2017 FFE Titanium, and with the $8,000+ rebates applied to new leases, my payment would have barely gone up after turning in my 2015. I almost did it, too, until I remembered that I wasn't buying another Ford again because of the modem issue (because if Ford can't fix that, what sort of torture would I have to endure for a real problem?!)
  21. I write to Ford every month asking if this nonsense has been fixed. Every month I get a reply thanking me for my "patience." Well, because of my "patience," Ford lost a sale today. I was at the dealership for service and saw someone admiring a 2017 FFE Platinum. I told him about the problems I was having with my modem and Value Charging and he decided to go visit a Chevy dealership for a Volt. Actually, Ford lost two sales, because I also was admiring a Burgundy 2017 FFE Titanium, and with the $8,000+ rebates applied to new leases, my payment would have barely gone up after turning in my 2015. I almost did it, too, until I remembered that I wasn't buying another Ford again because of the modem issue (because if Ford can't fix that, what sort of torture would I have to endure for a real problem?!)
  22. Keep sending e-mails to myfordmo@ford.com and calling Ford at (800) 392-3673 until they resolve the problem. Perhaps it would help to demand compensation for having diminished functionality in your vehicle due to Ford's incompetence and failure to adequately test the modem replacement?
  23. If Ford can't fix this simple thing, gotta wonder what they'll do if a serious problem occurs! This is my last Ford.
  24. See this thread for in-depth discussion of these problems. http://www.fordfusionenergiforum.com/topic/4550-value-charge-profiles-not-working/
  25. I can't believe how long this is taking Ford to fix! I guess they just don't care very much about anyone driving a pre-2016 vehicle. What does Ford think we do when we want a new car? In my case, it will be heading down to the dealership... the Chevrolet dealership to get a Volt!
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