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Ah OK, good on you then. :) I would do the same, but people who don't, I like to think bad karma comes to people eventually who aren't polite like that (proportional to the transgression) , but that's just my view of the world.

So are you able to clear out of that spot after the few (2) hours it takes to charge, or do you have to leave it in the spot all day? This is one of the problems I foresee with using public chargers for extended time parking, you have ( should ? ) clear out of the spot when you are charged, and its a pain to walk back and forth once more in your day to make this happen. - Stefan soon to be Energi owner..

I know that starting in 2012 with the Volt, the charger defaults to charging at 8Amps on the 120V, you have to select every time you charge that you want to charge at 12Amps, and you can't override it as a default. The thinking was GM put this in as a safety feature, because they were concerned with people plugging the EVSE into unsafe or untested 120V plugs/circuits. Yeah I know the 240V limit of the Energi is 3.3KW, it really annoys me it doesn't have a 6.6KW max charger... Speaking of these 'simple' questions, is there a FAQ written up anywhere on the forum that answers these basic type questions about the Fusion Energi? I think it would be good to have. I quickly scanned the forums topics but I didn't see anything posted.

Hi, yes I know EVSE's are not chargers, they are more like 'adapters' actually. Also, yes it makes sense that the charger on-board would slow down as you reach the top of the battery charge, all the EV charging systems do this. I just was wondering what was the default amperage the EVSE adapter presents to the car when you charge. So thanks for the info on the Energi EVSE. The way the Volt one works, is it has like 2 or 3 current modes. When you first plug it in it quickly tests the plug, and if it senses it can't handle a 12A load, it steps down to 10A or 8A, depending, or if it thinks there is a serious problem ( floating neutral, bad ground ) it will just fault with a red light. I had that problem plugging in at a hotel in California last year when I rented a Volt, it would only allow me to charge at 8A.

Heh, there already is such a dealer, they are called: T-E-S-L-A. ;) But seriously, once tesla gets big enough and is enough of a threat, the traditional manufacturers will get thier act together on this.. or die.

Does someone know how many Amps or watts the 120v EVSE draws from a circuit? Does it have the stepped down modes like the Chevy Volt EVSE does? (12 amps, 10 amps, or 8 amps? ) I didn't see that mentioned anywhere. Thanks! -- Stefan

Hey, I don't have one yet, but hopefully in the next 4-6 months, I will have one and be the first due north of you in Montreal, Quebec! :) - Stefan the ex-pat Bostonian

Shaggy: Yep, that sounds about right. The Focus Electric when pulling the full 6.6 KW off a L2, charges at about 25 miles/hour, which is double the 9-11 miles you see with the Fusion at 3.3. It's definitely not a huge deal as you say with the smaller pack on the Fusion.. The only time it would be handy is when you are on the road, and in the middle of a trip, when you stop for a 30-40 min food break, your battery would almost be full after that time, instead of just 1/3 of the way charged. and you would get that extra 10-15 miles of driving on electric instead of gas.. but on a long roadtrip, pretty insignifgant difference. Other than that scenario, not really needed. Energized: starting in 2013, the Leaf got a 6.6KW charger I think standard, upgraded from 3.3, which I think was sorely needed for a pure EV. Thanks, Stefan

Hi there: yes, I have driven the Focus Electric several times, and its a nice car. That's a bummer the Energi only charges at 3.3 Kw, but I guess it makes sense with that small of a battery pack. Anyways, I am keeping an eye on it as a potential PHEV to buy next year. :) Thanks, Stefan

Hi, I just discovered the Energi as a new entrant as a PHEV to compete against the Volt, and I like it a lot. Just wondering, what is the charging rate of the charger? is it 3 or 6 KWatts? Not seeing it documented anywhere. If its a 6KW charger that is a huge advantage over the Volt to get fast recharging on trips. (despite only having a 21 mile range) Thanks, Stefan in Montreal